[topicmapmail] Controlled Linking and Modular Topic Maps

Lars Marius Garshol larsga@ontopia.net
Wed, 13 Oct 2004 14:40:21 +0200


* Murray Altheim
| 
| If we were working on an XTM 1.1 syntax (which I hope we're not),

ISO is.

* thomas@stray.net
| 
| this made me wonder a bit wether there is a real interest in the
| community to publish XTM 1.1 or not. not that i think that every
| word on this list has to be commented immediatly but - anyway, it
| made me wonder.

Basically, ISO is doing a revision of ISO 13250, and XTM 1.1 is part
of this. The changes from 1.0 are very small, but there are a few.

See <URL: http://www.y12.doe.gov/sgml/sc34/document/0323.htm > for the
background, and <URL: http://www.isotopicmaps.org/sam/sam-xtm/ > for
the latest XTM 1.1 draft.
 
| XTM 1.1 is on my radar for more than a year now, i'm sort of waiting
| for it and i don't know what holds XTM 1.1 back.

Basically that the people working on this within ISO have too many
things to do at the same time, plus some internal political turmoil.

| i don't understand the process. is there still work to do? 

Yes, a little. You can expect a new draft by the end of this month,
which should be pretty much the final one.

| are there "political" issues, related to the dispute around the
| reference model and the application model (i omit the acronyms here
| because i'm not sure if i get the current ones right)?

There were. We're pretty much past those now, but it has held things
up.
 
| for me this is a quite important question. on the one hand i have a
| multilingual thesaurus in my application and as far as i know that's
| not possible to model with XTM 1.0 because of the TNC. 

What I would do is to ignore the TNC and just use XTM 1.0 as though it
didn't exist. Any decent topic map processor will either not support
the TNC or allow you to turn it off.

| on the other hand i won't make some additions to XTM 1.0 which work
| in some topic map engine, get ignored in the second one and
| certainly break when validation is turned on. that's not the way i
| want to work with standards and imho it's also not the way in which
| standards work.

Agreed.
 
| perhaps i'm not seeing the forest because of all the trees, then i
| would be glad to be corrected. and please forgive my impatience (and
| my english, if need be)!

No worries.

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