Fwd: Re: [topicmapmail] Primitive roles.

[Teresa Silio]

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Hi all

Your suggestions are very interesting. I will consider them.

What I think is that if it is possible to descibe a text using only a set of primitive roles, then it should be possible to describe a set of texts indexed by topic maps using the same primitives roles.

Once you have an Action, an Agent, a Pacient or an Objetc, the roles are defined 'per se', you don't need to set out who is the buyer, as there is an action and an agent. You may define roles in a standarized way:

Action: buy
Agent: buyer
Object: what was bought

You won't need to create a role for 'buyer' another one for the thing that was bought and so on. You just need to define an action, and then set out which is the agent, and which is the object. This means you save roles, labels and extra metainformation. 

Best,
Teresa

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Murray Altheim <m.altheim@open.ac.uk> wrote ..
> David Martul wrote:
> > Hi all
> > Hello everybody,
> > I think when you are working with an editor of topic maps you need 
> > define a set of primitive roles for your particular domain, it's like
> > to build a thesaurus. You define your vocabulary terms and you have 
> > defined with association, equivalence and hierarchical relationships
> > not only the relation between terms of your vocabulary, although you
> > have implied the role of one term with another because you've defined
> > a kind of relationship in your domain. eg: Peter is father of Henry.
> > The role of Peter (instance of class Person)wich you can define in 
> > your Topic Map about members of your Parish is hierarchical and in 
> > your Topic Map about your family you can define it like class/instance
> > for define a filial relationship.
> > Best Regards
> > Is it possible to set a set of primitive roles (in order to avoid 
> > variations) 
> > based on the Linguistic semantic roles?, that is:
> > 
> > Agent, Patient, Objetc, Source, Intrument, etc.
> 
> Teresa,
> 
> It's certainly possible to do so, but it occurs to me (given your
> background) that you might want to look into using some sort of
> hybrid Faceted Classification system, where all role types are
> descendant classes from either an "ur" role type or simply part of
> a larger ontology. The latter is the approach I've been taking. If
> you like, I'd be happy to correspond with you either on- or off-list
> regarding this. I've been trying to work with two FC researchers in
> London, but this hasn't happened very fast (e.g., it's taken several
> months to get a return on a given email).
> 
> Murray
> 
> > Thank you,
> > Teresa 
> > 
> >  Teresa Silio
> >  Head of Library and Information Science Services
> >  CNIC Fundacion Centro Nacional de Investigaciones Carlos III
> >  Ronda de Poniente, 5
> >  28760 Tres Cantos, Madrid
> >  Tel +34 91 8061880 x 1150
> >  Fax +34 91 8035258
> >  tsilio@cnic.es
> >  http://www.cnic.es
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Murray
> 
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