[topicmapmail] Data Model question : UML representation of TopicMap

Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:14:19 +0100

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Hi Alain,=20
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Yep we know about the diamonds being the round the wrong way. We have =
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it but not published the updated document.=20
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thank you for your comments and questions.
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[mailto:topicmapmail-admin@infoloom.com] On Behalf Of HERBUEL Alain
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Sent: 31 October 2003 13:08
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Lars Marius Garshol will say : "the text is important, not the UML =
diagram".
;o)=20
But, for me, diagrams are so important : they allow me to understand =
some
time a text which is to complex without such a diagram. Sometimes, they
provide information that is not in the text.

Let's take the TopicMap overview diagram (3.3 The topic map item). It =
shows
a relation between Association and TopicMap, with a black diamond on
Association's side. In UML, for me, that says if I suppress all the
instances of the class Association, I suppress automatically the object
witch is an instance of the class TopicMap. In this way, it doesn't make
sense for me.

The black diamond should be on the other side!=20

Does it make sense? Same remark with other objects on the same diagram.=20

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<P dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Lars =
Marius Garshol will=20
say : "the text is important, not the UML diagram". ;o)</FONT> <BR><FONT =

face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>But, for me, diagrams are so important : =
they allow me=20
to understand some time a text which is to complex without such a =
diagram.=20
Sometimes, they provide information that is not in the text.
Let's take the TopicMap overview =
diagram (3.3=20
The topic map item). It shows a relation between Association and =
TopicMap, with=20
a black diamond on Association's side. In UML, for me, that says if I =
suppress=20
all the instances of the class Association, I suppress automatically the =
object=20
witch is an instance of the class TopicMap. In this way, it doesn't make =
sense=20
for me.
The black diamond should be on =
the other=20
side! 
Does it make sense? Same remark =
with other=20
objects on the same diagram. 
Alain =
Herbuel <FONT=20
face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D#000080 size=3D1>Ing=E9nierie de =
l'information et=20
ing=E9nierie documentaire SNCF DSIT-EX/AM 5, place Jules Ferry 69476 LYON cedex 06 - France E-Mail : alain.herbuel@sncf.fr <FONT =

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41 66 - SNCF :=20
54 41 66</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D#000080 =
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