[topicmapmail] A somewhat new topic maps format

[Bernard Vatant]

Murray

"The question of identity within ontologies is a very complicated and
difficult subject."

Sure it is, but a crucial one, and only a part of the more general issue :
how to figure out now interoperability between the various ways that have
been developed in so many domains for identification purpose.

- subjects in topic maps (published or not)
- classes and individuals in ontologies
- resources in RDF
- descriptors in Thesaurus
- concepts in CG
- ...

... without, of course developing yet another "more-meta-than-you"
specification ...

I was thinking those days about some kind of "Semantic Interoperability &
Identification" forum to gather folks interested in exploring that heady
stuff ... Volunteers?

Bernard

PS1 : Thanks for the very interesing paper by Guarino.

PS2, for Peter :

"Bunzilla" is what the Name of your rabbit *is called*
The name itself *is* http://www.altheim.com/bunny/#bid0537

Or maybe the other way round ??

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : topicmapmail-admin@infoloom.com
> [mailto:topicmapmail-admin@infoloom.com]De la part de Murray Altheim
> Envoye : mercredi 6 aout 2003 21:43
> A : Peter P. Jones
> Cc : Topic Map List
> Objet : Re: [topicmapmail] A somewhat new topic maps format
>
>
> Peter P. Jones wrote:
> > But how do I distinguish my pet Bunzilla from your pet Bunzilla?
>
> It's only the Comprehensive Bunny *Name* List, not the Comprehensive
> Bunny List. You could use geospatial data to locate your bunny in space
> and time as distinct from mine (because if they're in the same location
> they're likely breeding, and
> wehaveenoughrabbitsaroundherealreadythankyou).
>
> Since Topic Maps provide a scoping feature, you could scope your
> Bunzilla's name by some namespace you control, create some form of
> unique identifier, etc. The question of identity within ontologies
> is a very complicated and difficult subject. If you're interested,
> check out:
>
>     "Identity & Subsumption", Nicola Guarino, Christopher Welty.
>
> http://www.ladseb.pd.cnr.it/infor/ontology/Papers/Identity&Subsum
> ption.pdf
>
>     "A Formal Ontology of Properties", Nicola Guarino, Christopher Welty.
>     http://www.cs.vassar.edu/faculty/welty/papers/ekaw2000/ekaw2000.pdf
>
> >  On 6 Aug 2003 at 16:39, Murray Altheim wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I've also done something similar. I've developed a version of XTM
> >>tailored for the Comprehensive Bunny Name List called CBNLXTM, which
> >>takes that "heck no, I won't interchange" approach in creating a
> >>syntax that nobody else but me will use. It's easier to validate since
> >>it has fewer elements (you can use topics instead of associations,
> >>though they have different semantics), the documents are shorter since
> >>all element names are only one or two characters long, and it also
> >>looks a bit like RDF (as it's quite unreadable), since that's very
> >>popular right now. And it doesn't rely on software at all for its
> >>success (given that its target audience is rabbits, who rarely turn on
> >>a computer).
> >>
> >>See:
> >>
> >>    http://www.altheim.com/bunny/
> >>    http://www.altheim.com/bunny/cbnlxtm1.dtd
>
> Murray
>
> .................................................................
> ..........
> Murray Altheim
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