[topicmapmail] tagging vs topics

[PeterV]

Hi Lars,
OK, I see what you're saying (I think). So say we're talking about news 
articles, you say turn every entire news article into a topic? But then how 
do you indicate that inside the text of the news article a company called 
"Microsoft" is mentioned, how do you point that word to the topic 
"microsoft" (which exists already somewhere in your map)?
I must be stupid.... I still don't get it. I don't want to turn my entire 
article into a topic map, I just need to know that the word "microsoft" in 
the article refers to the Microsoft topic in my topicmap.
PeterV

At 11:23 PM 4/17/2002 +0200, Lars Marius Garshol wrote:

>* peter@poorbuthappy.com
>|
>| That's exactly what I mean :) The NewsML example is what I mean. You
>| can see why someone would want to store stuff *within* the text of a
>| document, right?
>
>Of course! That's what I was talking about in my reply to you (but
>obviously I didn't explain it very well).
>
>| What I am trying to understand is how do you marry these two
>| different approaches. How can you embed topics in a file, while
>| still having a separate topic map.
>
>The key issue is to stop thinking that you have to embed <topic>
>elements. What you have to do is figure out how to turn the
>information you have in the file into topic map data. And that is
>actually quite easy.
>
>For example, the system I built has a simple XML configuration that
>turns the following
>
>   <gcapaper>
>     <front>
>       <title>tolog</title>
>       <subt>A topic map query language</subt>
>       <author>
>         <fname>Lars Marius</fname>
>         <surname>Garshol</surname>
>         <jobtitle>Development manager</jobtitle>
>         <address>
>         <affil>Ontopia</affil>
>         <cntry>Norway</cntry>
>         <email>larsga@ontopia.net</email>
>         <web>http://www.ontopia.net/</web>
>         </address>
>
>into the following topic map data (somewhat simplified):
>
>   [tolog : paper = "tolog - A topic map query language"
>     @"file://.../tolog.xml"]
>   {tolog, xml-paper, "file://.../tolog.xml"}
>
>   [lmg : person = "Lars Marius Garshol"]
>
>   written-by(tolog : work, lmg : author)
>
>   {lmg, jobtitle, [[Development manager]]}
>
>   [ontopia : company = "Ontopia"]
>
>   employed-by(ontopia : employer, lmg : employee)
>
>   /* and so on ... */
>
>(This is in the Linear Topic Map (LTM) notation, BTW. [foo : bar =
>"..."] means topic with ID 'foo', of type 'bar', with name "...".
>foo(bar, baz) is an association, {foo, bar, ...} an occurrence.)
>
>It also generates subject indicators for all the topics, so that if I
>want I can provide topic maps that make additional statements about
>these topics and have the two merged automatically. That allows me to
>let these two forms of information work together.
>
>Did this help?
>
>| It would be silly to use two separate technologies, since you'd be
>| duplicating topic data in separate places and that is of course
>| evil.
>
>Well, it would be silly *if* you duplicated data. If you don't it
>might not be so bad to use two files.
>
>--
>Lars Marius Garshol, Ontopian         <URL: http://www.ontopia.net >
>ISO SC34/WG3, OASIS GeoLang TC        <URL: http://www.garshol.priv.no >
>
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